[gelöst] Diseqc Frage - Profi gefragt

    • [gelöst] Diseqc Frage - Profi gefragt

      IST-Situation:

      Ein Multischalter 5/8 für Astra-Quattro versorgt alle meine boxen außer einer:
      Hier wurde hinter den MS noch ein 10/1 Schalter gehängt, wo die restlichen 9 SATs dazu gemischt werden. Ein Ausgang des Multischalters geht also wie ein normaler LNB an den ersten Eingang des 10/1 Diseqc und dessen Ausgang liefert dann sowohl Astra also auch die restlichen SATs an meine Wohnzimmerbox. Ansteuerung erfolgt mittels Diseqc1.1 uncommitted.

      SOLL-Situation:

      Ich würde gerne einen 9/8 Multischalter einsetzen, um Astra19+Hotbird13 für alle boxen zu haben, für die Wohnzimmerbox wieder zusätzlich die (dann 8) restlichen Sat-Positionen.

      Bei der 5/8 Variante braucht der MS ja nicht mehrere SATs umschalten, die Wahl des LNBs übernimmt ja der 10/1 Schalter, am 5/8 MS-Ausgang liegt ja sowieso immer nur Astra an.

      Funktioniert so ein MS für 2 quattro LNBs überhaupt in der bisherigen schaltung oder wie kann das gelöst werden, bzw. wie bringt man der Box bei, daß die ersten 2 Sat-Positionen über den MS umgeschaltet werden, die restlichen vom 10/1?
      Falls möglich, würde ich gerne den Spaun SMS91409NF einsetzen.
      Wäre ein SUR210F oder SUR211F eine lösung für dazwischen und in welcher betriebsart?

      oder wie würdet ihr das ganze lösen mit 2 quattro und 8 single lnb's?

      Bitte um Unterstützung, danke
    • you cant cascade two diseqs with same protocol 1.1
      cascade is posible when different protocols devices
      a) ten 1x4 (protocol 1.0 or 2.0) after one 1x10 (protocol 1.1)
      b) four 1x10 (protocol 1.1) after one 1x4 (protocol 1.0 or 2.0)


      i have made that way:
      moust popular position have 8 outputs LNBs
      less popilar 4 and 2 outputs LNBs
      each of tree naibhors have single 1x10 SW101D switch
      my boxes have cascaded tree 1x10 SW101D(1.1) trough one 1x4 switch(1.0)

      my roof:
      superfm.lv/m/LNBs/sat_mrt_home_090727_1short.jpg
      superfm.lv/m/LNBs/sat_mrt_home_090727_2short.jpg
      dm7080sstt; 2x dm8000sstt; dm7020s <- Diseq1x4 <- 3x Diseq1x10 <-
      Dishes:
      1.8m 36E;28E;23E;19E;16E;13E;7E
      1.6m 42E;36E
      1.0m 10/9E;5E;1W;8W
      1.0m 15W;22W;30W
      1.1m 4/5W;12W;18W;24W
      1.1m 53E;60E
      1.0m 75E
      TVs: Philips 46pfl9707s; Philips 42pfl9703h
    • @arianebox
      your multiswitch works on protocol 1.1 as i understand, then you can add one 1x4 switch(protocol 1.0) before it

      and have extra 3 positions
      receiver->
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input1 -> Multiswitch(1.1) -> LNB1 and LNB2
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input2 -> LNB3
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input3 -> LNB4
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input4 -> LNB5

      or have extra 12 positions
      receiver->
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input1 -> Multiswitch(1.1) -> LNB1 and LNB2
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input2 -> switch 1x10 SW101(1.1) -> LNB3 to LNB12
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input3 -> LNB13
      switch 1x4(1.0)_Input4 -> LNB14
      dm7080sstt; 2x dm8000sstt; dm7020s <- Diseq1x4 <- 3x Diseq1x10 <-
      Dishes:
      1.8m 36E;28E;23E;19E;16E;13E;7E
      1.6m 42E;36E
      1.0m 10/9E;5E;1W;8W
      1.0m 15W;22W;30W
      1.1m 4/5W;12W;18W;24W
      1.1m 53E;60E
      1.0m 75E
      TVs: Philips 46pfl9707s; Philips 42pfl9703h
    • hmm - i really don't know which protocol a normal spaun multiswitch uses (i think 1.0).

      i use 1.1 because my 10/1 diseqc switch is programmed to 1.1, but i also could program it to 1.0 or 1.2.

      HERE ist this diseqc, which mixes my other LNBs with the 5/8 switch for astra
    • my sw101d looks exactly same, just called Terra and older one Divas
      when its programmed to mode 5 then its answers only on 1.1 commands(uncommitted)
      if multiswitch works on 1.0 or 2.0(committed) then you can instal it after sw101d

      receiver->
      switch 1x10 SW101(1.1)_input1 -> Multiswitch(1.0) -> LNB1 and LNB2
      switch 1x10 SW101(1.1)_input2 -> LNB3
      switch 1x10 SW101(1.1)_input3 -> LNB4
      switch 1x10 SW101(1.1)_input4 -> LNB5
      switch 1x10 SW101(1.1)_input5 -> LNB6
      ...
      ..
      .
      dm7080sstt; 2x dm8000sstt; dm7020s <- Diseq1x4 <- 3x Diseq1x10 <-
      Dishes:
      1.8m 36E;28E;23E;19E;16E;13E;7E
      1.6m 42E;36E
      1.0m 10/9E;5E;1W;8W
      1.0m 15W;22W;30W
      1.1m 4/5W;12W;18W;24W
      1.1m 53E;60E
      1.0m 75E
      TVs: Philips 46pfl9707s; Philips 42pfl9703h
    • YESSSSSSSS sir!

      i think that's the answer i waited for :)

      then i have to let the 10/1 switch at modus5 and program the DM800 as follows, right?

      lnb1 / input1 / 1.1-uncommitted / astra19 (quattro at 9/8 multiswitch)
      lnb2 / input1 / 1.1-uncommitted / hotb13 (quattro at 9/8 multiswitch)
      lnb3 / input2 / 1.1-uncommitted / astra23 (single at 10/1 diseqc)
      lnb4 / input3 / 1.1-uncommitted / astra28 (single at 10/1 diseqc)
      lnb5 / input4 / 1.1-uncommitted / eutel16 (single at 10/1 diseqc)
      and so on .....
    • litle correction

      lnb1 / input1 / 1.1-uncommitted / AA-commited / astra19 (quattro at 9/8 multiswitch)
      lnb2 / input1 / 1.1-uncommitted / AB-commited / hotb13 (quattro at 9/8 multiswitch)
      lnb3 / input2 / 1.1-uncommitted / astra23 (single at 10/1 diseqc)
      lnb4 / input3 / 1.1-uncommitted / astra28 (single at 10/1 diseqc)
      lnb5 / input4 / 1.1-uncommitted / eutel16 (single at 10/1 diseqc)


      and one suggestion, when LNBs more than 4 then easyer is write parameters dirrect to enigma configfile /etc/enigma2>settings
      after save changes do killall -9 enigma2 under telnet console

      there sample of diseq setting lines in my config
      config.Nims.0.diseqc13V=true
      config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=48
      # AB-10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.192.lnb=1
      # AB-2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.130.lnb=2
      # AB-3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.360.lnb=3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.360.tonemode=off
      # AB-4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=4
      # AB-5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.48.lnb=5
      # AB-6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3592.lnb=6
      # AB-7
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.70.lnb=7
      # AB-8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.160.lnb=8
      # AB-9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.235.lnb=9
      # BA-2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3560.lnb=10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3550.lnb=10
      # BA-3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3520.lnb=11
      # BA-4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3475.lnb=12
      # BB-8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3450.lnb=13
      # BA-5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3420.lnb=14
      # BB-9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3380.lnb=15
      # BA-6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3355.lnb=16
      # BB-10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.3300.lnb=17
      # BA-10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.90.lnb=18
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.100.lnb=18
      # BB-2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.800.lnb=19
      # BB-3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.750.lnb=20
      # BB-4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.600.lnb=21
      # BB-5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.530.lnb=22
      # BB-6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.450.lnb=23
      # BA-8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.420.lnb=24
      # BA-9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.400.lnb=25
      config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.390.lnb=25

      # 19E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.threshold=11500

      # 13E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.2.threshold=11500

      # 36E Dish: 1/2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.lofh=10750
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.lofl=10750
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.3.threshold=11500

      # 28E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.4.threshold=11500

      # 5E Dish: 3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.threshold=11500
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.increased_voltage=true
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.5.diseqcRepeats=one

      # 1W Dish: 3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.6.threshold=11500

      # 7E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=7
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.7.threshold=11500

      # 16E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.8.threshold=11500

      # 23E Dish: 1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.commitedDiseqcCommand=AB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.9.threshold=11500

      # 4/5W Dish: 4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.10.threshold=11500

      # 8W Dish: 3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.11.threshold=11500

      # 12W Dish: 5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.12.threshold=11500

      # 15W Dish: 6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.13.threshold=11500

      # 18W Dish: 5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.14.threshold=11500

      # 22W Dish: 6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.15.threshold=11500

      # 24W Dish: 5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.16.threshold=11500

      # 30W Dish: 6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.17.threshold=11500

      # 9/10E Dish: 3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=10
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.18.threshold=11500

      # 80E Dish: 7
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.19.threshold=11500

      # 75E Dish: 7
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=3
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.20.threshold=11500

      # 60E Dish: 8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=4
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.21.threshold=11500

      # 53E Dish: 8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=5
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.22.threshold=11500

      # 45E Dish: 8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.commitedDiseqcCommand=BB
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=6
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.23.threshold=11500

      # 42E Dish: 2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=8
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.24.threshold=11500

      # 39/40E Dish: 2
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.diseqcMode=1_1
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.commandOrder=cut
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.commitedDiseqcCommand=BA
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.uncommittedDiseqcCommand=9
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.lof=user_defined
      config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.25.threshold=11500
      dm7080sstt; 2x dm8000sstt; dm7020s <- Diseq1x4 <- 3x Diseq1x10 <-
      Dishes:
      1.8m 36E;28E;23E;19E;16E;13E;7E
      1.6m 42E;36E
      1.0m 10/9E;5E;1W;8W
      1.0m 15W;22W;30W
      1.1m 4/5W;12W;18W;24W
      1.1m 53E;60E
      1.0m 75E
      TVs: Philips 46pfl9707s; Philips 42pfl9703h
    • die sache ist erledigt.

      der multischalter war schuld, daß ORF_HD auf dem neuen senderplatz gefreezed hat und auf dem alten nicht.

      ich habe heute einen SPAUN montiert und dahinter den 10/1 schalter, ansteuerung erfolgt wie vorher mit diseqc 1.1

      den alten multischalter verwende ich nun für hotbird, für die nicht sooo wichtigen sender, dahinter wieder der erwähnte 10er, der mir nun astra+hotbird quattro und die restlichen single-lnb's zusammen mischt

      was lerne ich daraus? daß ein 10jahre alter multischalter halt doch nicht mehr alles kann, was einem heute so abverlangt wird =)